seems like he had a vision for the future but was so obsessed with self power that he took others lives so he took them as if they were his own. its so unnerving to be able to see how some people can be manipulated. to know that people can still be used like this is just sad.
Everyone who is crazy has had some sort of "vision" for the future. It seems to be that there is a fine line between respectable power and dictatorship. This guy, like many others is crazy and had a weird sense of belief. Claiming that he is 'whatever people want him to be to them' is pretty ridiculous. Either you are sometime, or you aren't something.. you can't fall in between and fit into everyones accommodations by claiming you are whatever anyone wants you to be. That's just a safeguard for someone.
That is dumb. And people follow that because they wanted something more. They wanted hope, and something to live for, to think that what they are doing in this life is actually making a difference. It is just sad that crazy people 'snag' others who just want something to follow.
Great comments. I hope you enjoy this documentary. It's amazing how some people will obey a powerful leader. I just finished an incredibly disturbing book about the Street Kids in Portland. Some of those kids killed people because they were told to. One "kid" actually tried to use the following orders excuse.
I believe that I watched this documentary a few months ago. It truly is captivating, though. Perhaps he was a very charismatic figure and maybe those people really wanted/needed someone to guide them, and he happened to be that person. Maybe it's the same kind of thing that happens today- where the leader of a country for instance, can convince their nation to think/act a certain way- obviously not to THAT extreme like Jonestown, but it shows that anyone can exercise that kind of influence. Sometimes I wonder if I was in that situation if I would have followed..I certainly hope not.
Remember when I shared my Jonestown dream in class, Carlisle? Coincidence?
I wonder what Freud would say lol. "Jim Jones had UNRESOLVED SEXUAL CONFLICTS". haha nah.
Oh, and have you read Jon Stewart's book, 'Naked Pictures of Famous People'? (It's not really what the title implies...I swear I'm not a perv..)
Anyways, He talks about forming a cult and he talks about how he, as the leader, convinces a bunch of people that their savior was Cap'n Crunch and how the Cap would spring to life from the cereal box and save them all. He then tries to escape his own cult and then everyone turns against him and beats him up when they figure out he was lying to them the whole time. It's great.
The book has some pretty funny short story-type things.
I'm a native South Carolinian and I attained my undergraduate and graduate degrees from the University of South Carolina. I taught fourth grade for two years in the Mississippi Delta and two years at an alternative high school in Western North Carolina. I have been at Tigard High School since the fall of 2003, where I teach U.S. History and Psychology.
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seems like he had a vision for the future but was so obsessed with self power that he took others lives so he took them as if they were his own. its so unnerving to be able to see how some people can be manipulated. to know that people can still be used like this is just sad.
6:37 PM
Everyone who is crazy has had some sort of "vision" for the future. It seems to be that there is a fine line between respectable power and dictatorship. This guy, like many others is crazy and had a weird sense of belief. Claiming that he is 'whatever people want him to be to them' is pretty ridiculous. Either you are sometime, or you aren't something.. you can't fall in between and fit into everyones accommodations by claiming you are whatever anyone wants you to be. That's just a safeguard for someone.
That is dumb. And people follow that because they wanted something more. They wanted hope, and something to live for, to think that what they are doing in this life is actually making a difference. It is just sad that crazy people 'snag' others who just want something to follow.
That's my spin on it.
7:06 PM
Frank and Rachael,
Great comments. I hope you enjoy this documentary. It's amazing how some people will obey a powerful leader. I just finished an incredibly disturbing book about the Street Kids in Portland. Some of those kids killed people because they were told to. One "kid" actually tried to use the following orders excuse.
See you tomorrow.
8:55 PM
I believe that I watched this documentary a few months ago. It truly is captivating, though. Perhaps he was a very charismatic figure and maybe those people really wanted/needed someone to guide them, and he happened to be that person. Maybe it's the same kind of thing that happens today- where the leader of a country for instance, can convince their nation to think/act a certain way- obviously not to THAT extreme like Jonestown, but it shows that anyone can exercise that kind of influence. Sometimes I wonder if I was in that situation if I would have followed..I certainly hope not.
Remember when I shared my Jonestown dream in class, Carlisle? Coincidence?
I wonder what Freud would say lol. "Jim Jones had UNRESOLVED SEXUAL CONFLICTS". haha nah.
I can't wait for class on Tuesday now w00t
9:03 PM
Oh, and have you read Jon Stewart's book, 'Naked Pictures of Famous People'? (It's not really what the title implies...I swear I'm not a perv..)
Anyways,
He talks about forming a cult and he talks about how he, as the leader, convinces a bunch of people that their savior was Cap'n Crunch and how the Cap would spring to life from the cereal box and save them all. He then tries to escape his own cult and then everyone turns against him and beats him up when they figure out he was lying to them the whole time. It's great.
The book has some pretty funny short story-type things.
11:25 PM
Hahaha, that sounds so funny. It totally baffles me how people choose to follow ["obey"] really crazy people..
Mr. C, have you read "The Wave" or heard about it?
11:39 PM
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