posted by Mr. Carlisle at 9:25 AM
Tuesday, March 24, 2009
About Me
- Name: Mr. Carlisle
- Location: Portland, Oregon, United States
I'm a native South Carolinian and I attained my undergraduate and graduate degrees from the University of South Carolina. I taught fourth grade for two years in the Mississippi Delta and two years at an alternative high school in Western North Carolina. I have been at Tigard High School since the fall of 2003, where I teach U.S. History and Psychology.
Previous Posts
- White House Levitationby DiagonalView
- Adv. US History
- THS Fight Club?
- Mar. 19
- End Women's Suffrage?
- Conditions in the Georgia Peanut Factory
- Adv. US History
- Mar. 17
- Top Secret Video from the Tigerettes Training Comp...
- Adv. US History
16 Comments:
Is that breaking any laws?, and I wonder how many personal issues she has now.
12:23 PM
That's what the Supreme Court is going to decide: if this was an unreasonable search (which would violate the 4th Amendment).
Personally, yes, it was unreasonable. For starters, they were looking for aspirin. Seriously, aspirin? Strip searching for a headache pill (without even asking questions first) is absolutely unreasonable of anyone, let alone a 13 year-old girl.
My guess on the what SCOTUS will rule:
Aspirin does not pose enough of a health and safety threat to warrant that invasive of a search.
Strip searches on school grounds are legal provided there is a large enough health and safety threat (IE looking for weapons or crack).
Strip searches must be conducted only if there is enough probable cause (not sure on where SCOTUS will draw the line on what constitutes probable cause, though).
2:13 PM
Strip searches should only be allowed in prisons in my opinion. To have them in middle school especially is beyond belief. I'm not exactly sure what the officials were thinking when they did this. They may as well have started walking around with enormous signs saying, "PLEASE SUE ME".
I mean even if looking for weapons, I still don't think strip searching is worth it. If anything, have all schools have a metal detector wand to use on suspected students.
6:16 PM
You can't get high off of naproxin.
You just can't.
That was absolutely uncalled for. Does zero-tolerance really apply to aspirin as well? Does that mean I'm breaking school rules when I'm bringing my advil to school to take at the intervals I need?
8:00 PM
That was far to excessive. The school never took into account her school record, was relying on another persons testimony and some junk about a party when she was 13. Outside of school in the real world police need a search warrent to search your possessions and person; mayby we the schools' should get that first.
Like Casey said "absolutely unreasonable of anyone, let alone a 13 year-old girl"
Heck If I was the parent I would sue the school district so badly they would need to shut their doors and cut nonessential classes among other things.
Also the school district supposedly never told the girl what they were looking for first. If this is the case then in my opinion the student has the right to walk out and or request a layer first and parents need to be there with said student.
8:03 PM
Allie,
I have already alerted school security. Look for that blue slip of paper first period on Monday.
8:10 PM
You should tape this ABC t.v. show:
"What Would You Do". It started it 10:00...it's great for psychology!
Jess and I are watching it right now.
10:21 PM
Thats pretty dumb, but i do like the cops haircut, maybe ill walk in on monday sporting a similar dew
10:24 PM
"One of the pills is as strong as two Advils."
HOLY CRAP! That's some hardcore stuff!
10:29 PM
This comment has been removed by the author.
11:25 PM
The strength of 2 ENTIRE ADVILS?! Oh my goodness, I bet she was planning on dealing those to the entire class! The little devil.
This is absolutely ridiculous. Kids are already awkward and self-conscious in middle school, and now this girl had to practically expose herself to prove that she didn't have any "extremely deadly prescription strength ibuprofen" on her?! Ibuprofen is not marijuana! There was no need to search her like that!
11:26 PM
Clarissa,
I'm going to. I was watching it last night as well. Who's Jess??
7:54 AM
Is there anything wrong with strip searches at school? In my opinion, kids relinquish their rights when they attend a public facility.
One might wonder why we have the right to privacy in the first place. After all, the only people who should fear "unreasonable searches" are those who break the law. In seems that the purpose of a right to privacy is nothing more than to protect criminal action. But violation of the law is not necessarily a bad thing. Small, but reasonable opportunities to rebel prevent the establishment of completely stable governments, which would likely do away with democracy.
But as long as individuals retain their private property on which they may violate the law in secret, I see no problem with creating a zone where all laws must be followed for the sake of security. We'll call this zone the public, and this public will include our schools.
4:21 PM
I would have to agree with what Allie said because I have also had to bring advil to school because I have had to be at school for most of the day. I feel that this is illegal search and seizure. There are many times where people are in pain and by taking the medication away like that they are really making people have to suffer for longer. I understand their concerns, but they need to also be mindful of the people that have them. In addition to this, what would someone do if they had to take some pills at a certain time and that happened to be while they were on a plane? Would they just not be able to go on their trip?
5:32 PM
That is crazy!!! And I really hope they rule it violates the fourth amendment. The girl didn't even know why she was being searched until after the fact. They didn't have a strong reason for the search in the first place, just a suspicion.
And in 8th grade that is really humiliating. This type of search is unreasonable at all school ages and on all circumstances unless there is strong reason, like a threat to the entire school.
And like everyone has mentioned...aspirin, really.
2:31 PM
i heard that when you walk into a school as a student you do relinquish some of your usual rights. the artickle mentioned that too: search of belongins without a warrent for example. moraly i think what they did was wrong for all the reasons already mentioned but i think that the school has a chance at winning the case because they had the power to search. i dont like that we as students have to give up our rights, it never really made sence to me why that is the case.
10:12 PM
Post a Comment
<< Home